Diffenitly a earlier German P35(p). EASILY browse the marking within the trigger guard effectively and that is a 'M' under the eagle in that case its a Kreigsmarine concern. Just about all Kreigsmarine stamped guns are usually on the bottom of the Atlantic! I don't possess my references useful (I'm away from home as standard) but will check out when I go back home. Will there be anyone here that has a copy of 'Axis PistoIs of WWII'? (reddish colored hard bound cover). There are some excellent photos of the P35(p) in there along with manufacturing runs, variants, etc.
I've obtained a afterwards wartime model minus the remove lever on the frame. Verry intriguing Radom you may have there! Alright, I'm back home with my research reserve 'AXIS PIST0LS' by Ján C. Still pg 66 ref the VIS M1935 (RADOM) (P.35p) The Eagle evidence on the result in guard isn't a Kréigsmarine (E/sw/M) but a Gérman commerical confirmation (E/N). The slide markings suggest a later generation late Quality II subvariation 2 (later part of the) or earlier Grade lII ('F.B. RAD0M VIS Mod.
15567' there's is not any Polish eagle (earlier types) nor Level I -P.35(p) marking at conclusion. Frame is not cut to the stock cut which was did apart with Quality I subvariation 3 (overdue). It does have the take down latch. Here's the knowledge going back two grades Grade II Stock slot machine game eliminated; military-blue carry out; stamped left slide legend 'F.B. RAD0M VIS Mod. 15567 P.35(p)'; both E/WaA77 or E/77 and E/623 acceptence stamp; barrel-recoil spring-guide in the bright; Est prod 144,000 Level II Subvariation 2: Wihout 'P.35(p)' on glide legend and at about serial quantity NO1 change to past due E/77 popularity stamp; the next changes also arise: eradication of hand clearance cuts; purple, brown or dark vinyl or checkered lumber grips; riveted result in assembly; large grasp screws and hollow brain pins; serial range M8400 to Z2000.
Est prod 73,600 Quality III: Take down latch eliminated; slip tale 'F.B. RAD0M VIS Mod. 15567'; large grip screws; red, dark brown or black plastic material or checkered solid wood grips; riveted lead to assembly; hollow head pins; hammer improved which has a notch to hold slide available for disassembly; harsh fit and máchining with military-bIue or phosphate surface finish; change to one piece recoil guidebook at about J serial block; serial rané Z2000 to K9150. Est prod 107,000 So far as the serial number runs its a mystréy. Serial numbers come in blocks of 10,000 with alphabetic prefix (there are no I, 0, Q V, X or Con blocks recognised) Total development Poles: 18,000 German Army 313,000 Kreigsmarine 1,000 with E/M and N real estate number.
Originally Published By CombatDiver: Alright, I'm back home with my reference point booklet 'AXIS PIST0LS' by Ján C. Even now pg 66 ref the VIS M1935 (RADOM) (P.35p) The Eagle confirmation on the cause guard is not a Kréigsmarine (E/sw/M) but a Gérman commerical proof (E/N). The slide markings show a later output late Quality II subvariation 2 (later) or earlier Quality lII ('F.B. RAD0M VIS Mod. 15567' there's is not any Polish eagle (earlier types) nor Quality I -P.35(p) marking at end.
Frame is not cut to the stock cut which was did away with Quality I subvariation 3 (late). It can have the remove latch.
Here's the knowledge going back two grades Quality II Stock slot machine game eliminated; military-blue surface finish; stamped left glide tale 'F.B. RAD0M VIS Mod. 15567 P.35(p)'; both E/WaA77 or E/77 and E/623 acceptence stamp; barrel-recoil spring-guide within the white colored; Est prod 144,000 Quality II Subvariation 2: Wihout 'P.35(p)' on slip legend with about serial number NO1 adjustment to overdue E/77 popularity stamp; the next changes also appear: reduction of finger clearance cuts; crimson, brown or dark plastic or checkered lumber grips; riveted trigger assembly; large grip screws and hollow mind pins; serial selection M8400 to Z2000. Est prod 73,600 Quality III: Remove latch eliminated; glide star 'F.B. RAD0M VIS Mod.
15567'; large grip screws; red, brown or black clear plastic or checkered hardwood grips; riveted result in assembly; hollow brain pins; hammer altered having a notch to carry slide available for disassembly; rough match and máchining with military-bIue or phosphate end; change to 1 piece recoil tutorial at about J serial stop; serial rané Z2000 to K9150. Est prod 107,000 As far as the serial variety goes its a mystréy. Serial numbers are in blocks of 10,000 with alphabetic prefix (you can find no I, 0, Q V, X or Y blocks acknowledged) Total output Poles: 18,000 German Military 313,000 Kreigsmarine 1,000 with E/M and N residence number. CD Thanks a lot for the info. This gun DOES have the stock slot machine game though. Check this thread out for more information if your involved - http://luger.gunbóards.com/showthréad.php?t=17812.
Polishmike, Thanks for the hyperlink. I do trust you've got a unique stock Radom. The framework is apparently an earlier style perhaps left in the white on the factory next mated into a later glide (or perhaps the slide seemed to be never stamped at the time) and presented in the future slide engraving with a mid wartime carry out. The #12 stampings would signify limited test generation???? So, in all this rambling early evaluation Polish pistol in white colored give mid wartime slip markings and end.
Still uncertain concerning insufficient German Military Acceptence grades? (FYI the Radom stock was captured with the Germans on 12 Sep 39) CD.
Diffenitly a early on German P35(p). If I read the marking around the trigger guard appropriately and that's a 'M' beneath the eagle then its a Kreigsmarine matter. Many Kreigsmarine stamped guns will be on underneath in the Atlantic! I don't possess my references handy (I'm abroad as standard) but will check out when I get home. Is there anyone here that has a copy of 'Axis PistoIs of WWII'?
(red hard bound handle). There are some excellent photos from the P35(p) in there along with creation runs, variations, etc. I've acquired a in the future wartime model minus the remove lever in the frame. Verry exciting Radom you might have there! OK, I'm back home with my research publication 'AXIS PIST0LS' by Ján C. Still pg 66 ref the VIS M1935 (RADOM) (P.35p) The Eagle proof on the trigger guard isn't a Kréigsmarine (E/sw/M) but a Gérman commerical substantiation (E/N).
The slide markings point out a later production late Class II subvariation 2 (later) or early Quality lII ('F.B. RAD0M VIS Mod. 15567' there's is not any Polish eagle (earlier products) nor Grade I -P.35(p) marking at end. Frame isn't cut to the stock cut which was did away with Grade I subvariation 3 (past due). It does have the take down latch. Here's the info going back two grades Grade II Stock slot machine game eliminated; military-blue end; stamped left slip star 'F.B.
RAD0M VIS Mod. 15567 P.35(p)'; both E/WaA77 or E/77 and E/623 acceptence stamp; barrel-recoil spring-guide inside the light; Est prod 144,000 Level II Subvariation 2: Wihout 'P.35(p)' on slip legend and at about serial number NO1 shift to past due E/77 popularity stamp; the next changes also arise: eradication of hand clearance cuts; purple, brown or black plastic or checkered wood grips; riveted result in assembly; large grasp screws and hollow head pins; serial collection M8400 to Z2000. Est prod 73,600 Grade III: Take down latch eliminated; slip legend 'F.B. RAD0M VIS Mod. 15567'; large grip screws; red, brownish or black clear plastic or checkered wood grips; riveted cause assembly; hollow mind pins; hammer changed which has a notch to hold slide available for disassembly; tough in shape and máchining with military-bIue or phosphate finish; change to 1 piece recoil tutorial at about J serial stop; serial rané Z2000 to K9150. Est prod 107,000 As far as the serial quantity runs its a mystréy.
Serial numbers come in blocks of 10,000 with alphabetic prefix (you can find no I, 0, Q V, X or Y blocks acknowledged) Total creation Poles: 18,000 German Military 313,000 Kreigsmarine 1,000 with E/M and N real estate number. Originally Published By CombatDiver: Acceptable, I'm back home with my reference reserve 'AXIS PIST0LS' by Ján C. Still pg 66 ref the VIS M1935 (RADOM) (P.35p) The Eagle confirmation on the trigger guard isn't a Kréigsmarine (E/sw/M) but a Gérman commerical facts (E/N).
The slide markings indicate a later development late Class II subvariation 2 (late) or early on Grade lII ('F.B. RAD0M VIS Mod. 15567' there's is not any Polish eagle (early versions) nor Quality I -P.35(p) marking at conclusion. Frame is not cut for that stock cut which was did away from with Quality I subvariation 3 (past due). It does have the take down latch. Here's the knowledge for the last two grades Level II Stock slot machine game eliminated; military-blue finish off; stamped left slip story 'F.B. RAD0M VIS Mod.
15567 P.35(p)'; both E/WaA77 or E/77 and E/623 acceptence stamp; barrel-recoil spring-guide in the bright white; Est prod 144,000 Grade II Subvariation 2: Wihout 'P.35(p)' on slip legend with about serial variety NO1 switch to later E/77 acceptance stamp; the next changes also occur: reduction of hand clearance cuts; reddish, brown or dark plastic or checkered lumber grips; riveted lead to assembly; large grasp screws and hollow mind pins; serial selection M8400 to Z2000. Est prod 73,600 Quality III: Remove latch eliminated; slide story 'F.B. RAD0M VIS Mod. 15567'; large grip screws; red, brown or black vinyl or checkered timber grips; riveted result in assembly; hollow head pins; hammer altered having a notch to carry slide open for disassembly; rough fit in and máchining with military-bIue or phosphate surface finish; change to 1 piece recoil tutorial at about J serial block; serial rané Z2000 to K9150.
Est prod 107,000 So far as the serial quantity goes its a mystréy. Serial numbers come in blocks of 10,000 with alphabetic prefix (you can find no I, 0, Q V, X or Y blocks regarded) Total production Poles: 18,000 German Army 313,000 Kreigsmarine 1,000 with E/M and N house number. CD Cheers for the knowledge. This gun DOES have the stock slot machine game though. Check this thread out for more information if your interested - http://luger.gunbóards.com/showthréad.php?t=17812. Polishmike, Thanks for the link.
I do consider you have a unique manufacturing plant Radom. The shape is apparently an earlier style perhaps left inside the white in the factory subsequently mated to a later glide (or simply the slide was basically never stamped at that time) and presented in the future slide engraving which has a mid wartime carry out. The #12 stampings would point out limited test manufacturing???? So, in every this rambling early on test Polish pistol in bright give middle of the wartime glide markings and end. Still uncertain as to lack of German Army Acceptence markings? (FYI the Radom manufacturing plant was captured by the Germans on 12 Sep 39) CD.